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Johan's avatar

Beautiful to hear you both speaking to each other.

This episode lands well on the mechanics of attention, but it stays on the surface of what attention is.

The conversation frames distraction as structural and trainable, which is useful, but it never touches the deeper layer: the fact that attention sits on top of systems we don’t fully understand, from subjective experience to developmental neurobiology.

I would also love a richer discussion acknowledging Chalmers’ hard problem, the gap between neural activity and felt experience, and how any attempt to “reclaim attention” depends on whether we’re talking about functional control or the phenomenology of awareness. It also would have benefited from Dennett’s “competence without comprehension,” because so much of our attentional life is driven by sub-personal processes that know how to act long before we consciously understand anything. That’s the real battleground with technology: it targets the layers beneath comprehension.

And then there’s emergence. Human attention doesn’t appear fully formed; it develops through scaffolding, co-regulation, and the slow construction of executive function.

Understanding when and how attention becomes something we can actually reclaim would have grounded the conversation in neuroscience and human development.

The episode is a great listen, but it’s missing the philosophical and developmental architecture that makes attention more than a set of habits.

Maybe a part 2, please?

You guys are great, thank you!

—Johan

Reba Griffith's avatar

This is such an impressive line-up!

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